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	<title>Comments on: ACN video phone part VII: Behind the game</title>
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	<description>Putting the nerd in comnerdedy</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ravi Nayar</title>
		<link>http://www.danwalmsley.com/2008/06/12/acn-video-phone-part-vii-behind-the-game/#comment-13579</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Nayar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Matsonian &#38; Ellie.

Dan, you maybe correct in your assessment of the Videophone not being revolutionary in the context of technology. However consider that it is revolutionary in that most homes with analog phones are able to cut their monthly cost and move to a digital phone which also allows them to see the person they are talking to.

Matsonian have you tried calling a IRIS 3000 videophone from Skype? I can provide you with my Videophone number if you want to try.

I do not have the specs for the IRIS 3000. I do have the user manual http://www.myacncanada.ca/documents/iris3000_userguide_en.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Matsonian &amp; Ellie.</p>
<p>Dan, you maybe correct in your assessment of the Videophone not being revolutionary in the context of technology. However consider that it is revolutionary in that most homes with analog phones are able to cut their monthly cost and move to a digital phone which also allows them to see the person they are talking to.</p>
<p>Matsonian have you tried calling a IRIS 3000 videophone from Skype? I can provide you with my Videophone number if you want to try.</p>
<p>I do not have the specs for the IRIS 3000. I do have the user manual <a href="http://www.myacncanada.ca/documents/iris3000_userguide_en.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.myacncanada.ca/documents/iris3000_userguide_en.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Walmsley :: ACN Video Phone part XCVIII: The ACN-enning!</title>
		<link>http://www.danwalmsley.com/2008/06/12/acn-video-phone-part-vii-behind-the-game/#comment-13516</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Walmsley :: ACN Video Phone part XCVIII: The ACN-enning!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] found out that the ACN video phone is nothing special, certainly not the exclusive, revolutionary item that ACN is trumpeting it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] found out that the ACN video phone is nothing special, certainly not the exclusive, revolutionary item that ACN is trumpeting it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ellie</title>
		<link>http://www.danwalmsley.com/2008/06/12/acn-video-phone-part-vii-behind-the-game/#comment-13514</link>
		<dc:creator>ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dan. 

Interesting that you would respond in that way to Ravi and have to agree with matsonian about the manner/tone in which you required acknowledgement of/for yourself in a prescribed manner and yet could not return the favour.

Reeking with sarcasm and cynicism, why is it so hard to allow Ravi his freedom to be an entrepreneur (obviously) for his business?

And there is always a prescribed manner in which one does things in their work regardless of what type of work, employment, career that person has... wouldnt you agree?

Life is full of dialogue and prescribed ways so in all fairness - live and let live ..?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dan. </p>
<p>Interesting that you would respond in that way to Ravi and have to agree with matsonian about the manner/tone in which you required acknowledgement of/for yourself in a prescribed manner and yet could not return the favour.</p>
<p>Reeking with sarcasm and cynicism, why is it so hard to allow Ravi his freedom to be an entrepreneur (obviously) for his business?</p>
<p>And there is always a prescribed manner in which one does things in their work regardless of what type of work, employment, career that person has&#8230; wouldnt you agree?</p>
<p>Life is full of dialogue and prescribed ways so in all fairness - live and let live ..?</p>
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		<title>By: matsonian</title>
		<link>http://www.danwalmsley.com/2008/06/12/acn-video-phone-part-vii-behind-the-game/#comment-13135</link>
		<dc:creator>matsonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow dan. I was very interested in your post, until you attacked Ravi about how he responded to you. Oops... look I did it to. Compliment you on your post... wow, I must be trying to manipulate the argument. And then to throw Scientology into it? A bit intelectually off center, don't you think?
I am interested in knowing if the Iris 3000 supports other protocals. In fact I found this forum because I was looking ot see if there was any way for me to use Skype video to call a video phone, and not just another Skype user. Any information would be helpful... thanks! (and lay off attacking others, just provide information, it gives you greater credibility... just look at our presidential race for guidance)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow dan. I was very interested in your post, until you attacked Ravi about how he responded to you. Oops&#8230; look I did it to. Compliment you on your post&#8230; wow, I must be trying to manipulate the argument. And then to throw Scientology into it? A bit intelectually off center, don&#8217;t you think?<br />
I am interested in knowing if the Iris 3000 supports other protocals. In fact I found this forum because I was looking ot see if there was any way for me to use Skype video to call a video phone, and not just another Skype user. Any information would be helpful&#8230; thanks! (and lay off attacking others, just provide information, it gives you greater credibility&#8230; just look at our presidential race for guidance)</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://www.danwalmsley.com/2008/06/12/acn-video-phone-part-vii-behind-the-game/#comment-12554</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to regain legitimacy in a debate:

1. Compliment the other speaker ("Dan Thanks for a great Forum")

2. Give a little ground but not too much ("I too had issues and their Technical Support were able to resolve the dropped call issues")

3. Change the subject ("Yesterday ACN announced that their IRIS 3000 Videophone will be released in July 2008").

Amazing. It's like it came straight out of a textbook.

Is there a textbook on this stuff? If so I'd like to buy it. I'm pretty sure the Scientologists have tried to pull the same tricks on me before.

These guys are a much slicker operation than the Meegos mob (3hgroup). 3hgroup tried to anonymously discredit me or sway the argument using very ham-handed tactics like posting under multiple identities (but the same IP address - duh!), whereas ACN obviously know quite a bit about marketing and negotiation/game theory.

I'm probably out of my depth. We'll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to regain legitimacy in a debate:</p>
<p>1. Compliment the other speaker (&#8221;Dan Thanks for a great Forum&#8221;)</p>
<p>2. Give a little ground but not too much (&#8221;I too had issues and their Technical Support were able to resolve the dropped call issues&#8221;)</p>
<p>3. Change the subject (&#8221;Yesterday ACN announced that their IRIS 3000 Videophone will be released in July 2008&#8243;).</p>
<p>Amazing. It&#8217;s like it came straight out of a textbook.</p>
<p>Is there a textbook on this stuff? If so I&#8217;d like to buy it. I&#8217;m pretty sure the Scientologists have tried to pull the same tricks on me before.</p>
<p>These guys are a much slicker operation than the Meegos mob (3hgroup). 3hgroup tried to anonymously discredit me or sway the argument using very ham-handed tactics like posting under multiple identities (but the same IP address - duh!), whereas ACN obviously know quite a bit about marketing and negotiation/game theory.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m probably out of my depth. We&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: Ravi Nayar</title>
		<link>http://www.danwalmsley.com/2008/06/12/acn-video-phone-part-vii-behind-the-game/#comment-12552</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravi Nayar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Thanks for a great Forum.

Agree that there are many good VoiP providers out there but Skype, PennyTel &#38; Vonage do not offer Videophone that replaces your home phone. 

I was very disappointed to see the Customer Service issues at voipreview.org. I too had issues and their Technical Support were able to resolve the dropped call issues. It was due to my Internet and the Modem update. It seems that Broadband Internet is better for Videophone then the DSL Internet provided by ACN.

Yesterday ACN announced that their IRIS 3000 Videophone will be released in July 2008. Preliminary info is available at http://www.getvideophone.com/index.php?option=com_content&#38;task=view&#38;id=84&#38;Itemid=131

It is still unclear if the IRIS 3000 will be able to call videophones from other providers. The big difference with this model is a bigger 7" screen and Videomail capabilities. More details to follow in July.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan Thanks for a great Forum.</p>
<p>Agree that there are many good VoiP providers out there but Skype, PennyTel &amp; Vonage do not offer Videophone that replaces your home phone. </p>
<p>I was very disappointed to see the Customer Service issues at voipreview.org. I too had issues and their Technical Support were able to resolve the dropped call issues. It was due to my Internet and the Modem update. It seems that Broadband Internet is better for Videophone then the DSL Internet provided by ACN.</p>
<p>Yesterday ACN announced that their IRIS 3000 Videophone will be released in July 2008. Preliminary info is available at <a href="http://www.getvideophone.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=84&amp;Itemid=131" rel="nofollow">http://www.getvideophone.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=84&amp;Itemid=131</a></p>
<p>It is still unclear if the IRIS 3000 will be able to call videophones from other providers. The big difference with this model is a bigger 7&#8243; screen and Videomail capabilities. More details to follow in July.</p>
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